Comments on: Champion Dragon Boats http://www.dragonglobe.com/dragon-boats/champion-dragon-boats/ dragonboat talk for dragonboaters. Sun, 29 Jan 2012 09:40:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Doug Sinclair http://www.dragonglobe.com/dragon-boats/champion-dragon-boats/comment-page-1/#comment-6688 Doug Sinclair Wed, 10 Nov 2010 23:04:42 +0000 http://www.dragonglobe.com/?p=516#comment-6688 Hi Tyrone and others, There are several models of Champion boat starting with the 5 seater steered somewhat like an outrigger (i.e., no steering oar) then DB912 (10 Seater) then DB1222 (20 seater) through to a 40 seater. The DB1222 weighs in at 250Kg as per the IDBF spec but all spec boats are permitted a small percentage variation. The Champion has refined its end shapes (still within spec) to create less drag resistances and thus cut through the water more efficiently than the bulkier shaped styles. A DB912 today sells in Australia for just $8K AUD and a DB1222 for just $9K AUD (inclusive of freight, duties and taxes from China to point of unloading container in Australia. We at DBA aim to help the sport afford the best they can for the dollars they have. Naturally as we pay the Manufacturer in USD our prices fluctuate with the exchange rate. Dollar for dollar you can't get a better boat. Noteworthy is that a purchase of Champion brand includes all the accessories i.e., Dragon Head and Tail, Drum and Drummer seat, Stainless hoop 'U'-bolt for steering arm and 'T'-bar style steering oar. Other suppliers charge for each of those elements as after market accessories. Not sure what Rex is on about; Champion boats are made similarity to other top brands i.e., double skin Glass with flotation foam between layers. Each has a flotation tank at each end. We have new features also in design & development to improve the model further. Yes Champion also make carbon OC1, OC2 and we are developing OC6. We also have a range of racing kayaks and skis. Regards Doug Hi Tyrone and others,
There are several models of Champion boat starting with the 5 seater
steered somewhat like an outrigger (i.e., no steering oar) then DB912 (10 Seater) then DB1222 (20 seater) through to a 40 seater.
The DB1222 weighs in at 250Kg as per the IDBF spec but all spec boats are permitted a small percentage variation.
The Champion has refined its end shapes (still within spec) to create less drag resistances and thus cut through the water more efficiently than the bulkier shaped styles.
A DB912 today sells in Australia for just $8K AUD and a DB1222 for just $9K AUD (inclusive of freight, duties and taxes from China to point of unloading container in Australia. We at DBA aim to help the sport afford the best they can for the dollars they have.
Naturally as we pay the Manufacturer in USD our prices fluctuate with the exchange rate.
Dollar for dollar you can’t get a better boat.
Noteworthy is that a purchase of Champion brand includes all the accessories i.e., Dragon Head and Tail, Drum and Drummer seat, Stainless hoop ‘U’-bolt for steering arm and ‘T’-bar style steering oar.
Other suppliers charge for each of those elements as after market accessories.
Not sure what Rex is on about; Champion boats are made similarity to other top brands i.e., double skin Glass with flotation foam between layers. Each has a flotation tank at each end.
We have new features also in design & development to improve the model further.
Yes Champion also make carbon OC1, OC2 and we are developing OC6. We also have a range of racing kayaks and skis.
Regards
Doug

]]> By: Rex Budd http://www.dragonglobe.com/dragon-boats/champion-dragon-boats/comment-page-1/#comment-6564 Rex Budd Sun, 29 Aug 2010 09:32:42 +0000 http://www.dragonglobe.com/?p=516#comment-6564 Is the push by the IDBF toward plastic boats from China promoting production of other boats in the countries where they are used? Durability of GRP boats without hull protection is proven to be suspect. Is that why you've been through so many generations of the Champion Scott? Is the push by the IDBF toward plastic boats from China promoting production of other boats in the countries where they are used? Durability of GRP boats without hull protection is proven to be suspect. Is that why you’ve been through so many generations of the Champion Scott?

]]> By: Rex Budd http://www.dragonglobe.com/dragon-boats/champion-dragon-boats/comment-page-1/#comment-6563 Rex Budd Sun, 29 Aug 2010 09:31:15 +0000 http://www.dragonglobe.com/?p=516#comment-6563 Is the push by the IDBF toward plastic boats from China promoting production of other boats in the countries where they are used? Durability of GRP boats without hull protection is proven to be suspect. Is the push by the IDBF toward plastic boats from China promoting production of other boats in the countries where they are used? Durability of GRP boats without hull protection is proven to be suspect.

]]> By: Ken McVay http://www.dragonglobe.com/dragon-boats/champion-dragon-boats/comment-page-1/#comment-6516 Ken McVay Thu, 07 Jan 2010 03:59:20 +0000 http://www.dragonglobe.com/?p=516#comment-6516 I would live to hear comparisons between the Champion 12 and the Swift 912. Anyone had experience in both hulls? Paddles up! Ken I would live to hear comparisons between the Champion 12 and the Swift 912.

Anyone had experience in both hulls?

Paddles up!

Ken

]]> By: Scott http://www.dragonglobe.com/dragon-boats/champion-dragon-boats/comment-page-1/#comment-5248 Scott Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:42:34 +0000 http://www.dragonglobe.com/?p=516#comment-5248 Paddling out of Long Beach, California, all of our boats are Champion. The current batch of Champions we have are great boats (we've gone through 3-4 generations). When they first started showing up in Long Beach a few years ago, they were slow, heavy and not-so durable. Champion introduced some new boats at the '06 ICF World Championships in Taiwan (I believe that's me in row 4 right of boat 4 in your picture (TeamUSA)). those boats were great - both the 10 man and 20 man boats. Solid, true, and comfortable. These boats later showed up in Long Beach. How lucky we are. IDBF certified Champions were used at the '08 USDBF Nationals also held in Long Beach this past summer. These boats were pretty damn solid (but not quite a BUK). The best way I can describe these boats are heavier BUK boats. Not quite as fast but probably more durable. IMHO, BUK is still the standard, but Champion is on its way up. Check out Champion's first try at an OC1 here: http://readyandreach.wordpress.com/2008/07/13/champion-oc1-prototype/ Cheers! Paddling out of Long Beach, California, all of our boats are Champion. The current batch of Champions we have are great boats (we’ve gone through 3-4 generations). When they first started showing up in Long Beach a few years ago, they were slow, heavy and not-so durable.

Champion introduced some new boats at the ’06 ICF World Championships in Taiwan (I believe that’s me in row 4 right of boat 4 in your picture (TeamUSA)). those boats were great – both the 10 man and 20 man boats. Solid, true, and comfortable. These boats later showed up in Long Beach. How lucky we are. IDBF certified Champions were used at the ’08 USDBF Nationals also held in Long Beach this past summer. These boats were pretty damn solid (but not quite a BUK).

The best way I can describe these boats are heavier BUK boats. Not quite as fast but probably more durable. IMHO, BUK is still the standard, but Champion is on its way up.

Check out Champion’s first try at an OC1 here: http://readyandreach.wordpress.com/2008/07/13/champion-oc1-prototype/

Cheers!

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